Official 2024 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Official 2024 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Poll: Official 2024 British Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

Total Members Polled: 222

Verstappen: 18%
Perez: 0%
Leclerc: 0%
Sainz: 0%
Norris: 43%
Piastri: 4%
Russell: 5%
Hamilton: 30%
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Tim the pool man

4,930 posts

220 months

tele_lover said:
I thought this too. I was a little disappointed with Martin to be honest.

He'll go and speak with some moron celebrity but brushed-off an excited minister showing some personality.
I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!

PlywoodPascal

4,685 posts

24 months

Tim the pool man said:
I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!
And suddenly everything becomes clear

Altrezia

8,556 posts

214 months

Tim the pool man said:
I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!
"correct reaction"

PhilAsia

4,068 posts

78 months

PlywoodPascal said:
Tim the pool man said:
I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!
And suddenly everything becomes clear
...speaks volumes...

Milkyway

9,608 posts

56 months

PhilAsia said:
PlywoodPascal said:
Tim the pool man said:
I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!
And suddenly everything becomes clear
...speaks volumes...
Shame Angela wasn't invited... just to see what she was wearing. rolleyes

mick987

1,336 posts

113 months

Milkyway said:
Shame Angela wasn't invited... just to see what she was wearing. rolleyes
That would be fun, I think Jos Verslaphim would have met his match

Milkyway

9,608 posts

56 months

mick987 said:
That would be fun, I think Jos Verslaphim would have met his match
A nice BRG boiler suit.

SFTWend

894 posts

78 months

silentbrown said:
Maybe he'd just run out of drinking water..?
Maybe he was so excited to be in the lead that he wet himself.

TheDeuce

22,891 posts

69 months

Sandpit Steve said:
TheDeuce said:
Hustle_ said:
I imagine coolant in F1 has approximately zero water in it?
Got me to google it now..

https://motorsport.tech/formula-1/car-cooling-syst...
Watching back the last couple of laps from his onboard, they were troubleshooting an issue with high engine temps before he retired, that was leading to the PU derating on the straights. Guess would be low water pressure due to a leak somewhere in the system, that was going to be unrecoverable. Not sure George was expecting the call to box though, I think he thought they could work through it.

The coolant itself is, as your link suggests, a pressurised water/glycol mix, and they use the minimum amount of cooling they can get away with for the circuit conditions, as the cooling inlets and outlets affect the aerodynamic performance of the car Whatever the issue was, it wasn’t something they could fix by removing some tape from the radiator inlet.
I don't think anyone was suggesting it could be fixed by adjusting airflow - we were just having a separate discussion about how far they push cooling system even at lower temp circuits.

I agree that whatever the cause of the pressure drop, in a relatively small volume and high pressure cooling system, the tiniest leak would quickly drop the pressure, in turn dropping the boiling point of the coolant - it would only get worse from that point and there is no rapid fix possible. Hitting the 'retire' button probably couldn't happen fast enough once they confirmed the pressure drop.

Sad for GR! Although as noted earlier, Lewis had a no fault DNF this season too, these things happen.

TheDeuce

22,891 posts

69 months

SFTWend said:
silentbrown said:
Maybe he'd just run out of drinking water..?
Maybe he was so excited to be in the lead that he wet himself.
Good job they didn't use the 'exhaust system problem' code then...

Milkyway

9,608 posts

56 months

TheDeuce said:
SFTWend said:
silentbrown said:
Maybe he'd just run out of drinking water..?
Maybe he was so excited to be in the lead that he wet himself.
Good job they didn't use the 'exhaust system problem' code then...
Radio: "Lewis is faster than you"...

Tim the pool man

4,930 posts

220 months

PhilAsia said:
PlywoodPascal said:
Tim the pool man said:
I think you're ignoring the part where the minister's paid thug grabbed MB by the shoulder! The correct reaction from MB would have been to punch him in the face and tell them both to fk off!
And suddenly everything becomes clear
...speaks volumes...
I've no idea of what point you both think you're making... what would your reaction be if a hired goon grabbed you by the shoulder and tried to push you in the direction he wanted? Perhaps a biff in the bifocals is a bit unnecessary, but telling him to fk off wouldn't be out of line!

PlywoodPascal

4,685 posts

24 months

Tim the pool man said:
I've no idea of what point you both think you're making... what would your reaction be if a hired goon grabbed you by the shoulder and tried to push you in the direction he wanted? Perhaps a biff in the bifocals is a bit unnecessary, but telling him to fk off wouldn't be out of line!
Tim, I think I might start with "excuse me" or maybe "please don't touch me" first.

Collectingbrass

2,273 posts

198 months

TheDeuce said:
Sandpit Steve said:
TheDeuce said:
Hustle_ said:
I imagine coolant in F1 has approximately zero water in it?
Got me to google it now..

https://motorsport.tech/formula-1/car-cooling-syst...
Watching back the last couple of laps from his onboard, they were troubleshooting an issue with high engine temps before he retired, that was leading to the PU derating on the straights. Guess would be low water pressure due to a leak somewhere in the system, that was going to be unrecoverable. Not sure George was expecting the call to box though, I think he thought they could work through it.

The coolant itself is, as your link suggests, a pressurised water/glycol mix, and they use the minimum amount of cooling they can get away with for the circuit conditions, as the cooling inlets and outlets affect the aerodynamic performance of the car Whatever the issue was, it wasn’t something they could fix by removing some tape from the radiator inlet.
I don't think anyone was suggesting it could be fixed by adjusting airflow - we were just having a separate discussion about how far they push cooling system even at lower temp circuits.

I agree that whatever the cause of the pressure drop, in a relatively small volume and high pressure cooling system, the tiniest leak would quickly drop the pressure, in turn dropping the boiling point of the coolant - it would only get worse from that point and there is no rapid fix possible. Hitting the 'retire' button probably couldn't happen fast enough once they confirmed the pressure drop.

Sad for GR! Although as noted earlier, Lewis had a no fault DNF this season too, these things happen.
They should have dropped an egg in and kept going

TheDeuce

22,891 posts

69 months

Collectingbrass said:
TheDeuce said:
Sandpit Steve said:
TheDeuce said:
Hustle_ said:
I imagine coolant in F1 has approximately zero water in it?
Got me to google it now..

https://motorsport.tech/formula-1/car-cooling-syst...
Watching back the last couple of laps from his onboard, they were troubleshooting an issue with high engine temps before he retired, that was leading to the PU derating on the straights. Guess would be low water pressure due to a leak somewhere in the system, that was going to be unrecoverable. Not sure George was expecting the call to box though, I think he thought they could work through it.

The coolant itself is, as your link suggests, a pressurised water/glycol mix, and they use the minimum amount of cooling they can get away with for the circuit conditions, as the cooling inlets and outlets affect the aerodynamic performance of the car Whatever the issue was, it wasn’t something they could fix by removing some tape from the radiator inlet.
I don't think anyone was suggesting it could be fixed by adjusting airflow - we were just having a separate discussion about how far they push cooling system even at lower temp circuits.

I agree that whatever the cause of the pressure drop, in a relatively small volume and high pressure cooling system, the tiniest leak would quickly drop the pressure, in turn dropping the boiling point of the coolant - it would only get worse from that point and there is no rapid fix possible. Hitting the 'retire' button probably couldn't happen fast enough once they confirmed the pressure drop.

Sad for GR! Although as noted earlier, Lewis had a no fault DNF this season too, these things happen.
They should have dropped an egg in and kept going
visions of a junior engineer legging it down to catering to grab an egg - only to return 5 minutes later and discover it's hard boiled smile

Tim the pool man

4,930 posts

220 months

PlywoodPascal said:
Tim, I think I might start with "excuse me" or maybe "please don't touch me" first.
It just occurred to me, perhaps I've lived in Australia too long! yikes